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sivakumar_jm
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 5:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Despite the bad thinks DMK has done to our community, still they won.

Is this because of
1. Frustration against Mr. Mathan ?
2. Who care's attitute ?
3. Innocent people's trust in Mr.Prabhu's words again ?
4. We don't have any strong leader's, and so got lost what we do ?
5. ADMK didn't do anything either ?
6. Something else, just like that..?
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gopinath
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:44 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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hi,

[size=9]whatever the reason may be.... MR.MATHAN lost in the elections.

Its BJP lost the election . .....not MR.MATHAN

He has done wonderful works to the people of nilgiris and ofcourse lots for our community.( To best of his ability and capacity)

People had shown their frustration because of ever recorded low price for tea leaf.

Incase if he had resigned during the agitation or atleast after our youth were brutally beaten up by the " barbarian " tamilnadu police.( in the half nude rally). MR.MATHAN would have become an evershining leader.

i am sure he would have won even as an independent candidate.

WE BADAGAS ....CAN NEVER BE THE KING MAKERS.

WE SHOULD TRY ATLEAST TO BE UNITED AND SEND REPRESENTIVES TO LOK SABHA AND ASSEMBLY .

WE SHOULD MAKE POLITICAL PARTIES TO GIVE TICKETS ONLY TO BADAGA CANDIDATES.

the current coalition would not lost more than two years. if it is so ...we must make our beloved leader MR. MATHAN as our parlimentarian again.

JAI HIND,[/size]
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rnandhi
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 4:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The Nehru Dynasty

At the very beginning of his book "The Nehru Dynasty", K.N.Rao
mentions the names of Jawahar Lal's father and grandfather. Jawahar
Lal's
father was believed to be Moti Lal and Moti Lal's father was one Gangadhar
Nehru. And we all know that Jawahar Lal's only daughter was Indira
Priyadarshini Nehru; Kamala Nehru was her mother, who died in Switzerland
of
tuberculosis. She was totally against Indira's proposed marriage with
Feroze. Why? No one tells us that.

Now, who is this Feroze? We are told by many that he was the son of
the family grocer. The grocer supplied wines, etc. to Anand Bhavan,
previously known as Ishrat Manzil, which once belonged to a Moslem
lawyer
named Mobarak Ali. Moti Lal was earlier an employee of Mobarak Ali. What
was
the family grocer's name? One frequently hears that Rajiv Gandhi's
grandfather was Pandit Nehru. But then we all know that everyone has two
grandfathers, the paternal and the maternal and fathers. In fact, the
paternal grandfather is deemed to be the more important grandfather in most
societies. Why is it then no where we find Rajiv Gandhi's paternal
grandfather's name? It appears that the reason is simply this. Rajiv
Gandhi's paternal grandfather was a Moslem gentleman from the Junagadh area
of Gujarat.

This Moslem grocer by the name of Nawab Khan, had married a Parsi woman
after converting her to Islam. This is the source where from the myth
of Rajiv being a Parsi was derived. Rajiv's father Feroze was Feroze
Khan before he married Indira, against Kamala Nehru's wishes. Feroze's
mother's family name was Ghandy, often associated with Parsis and this
was
changed to Gandhi, sometime before his wedding with Indira, by an
affidavit.
The fact of the matter is that (and this fact can be found in many
writings) Indira was very lonely. Chased out of the Shantiniketan
University by Gurudev Rabindranath himself for misdemeanor, the lonely girl
was all by herself, while father Jawahar was busy with politics, pretty
women and illicit sex, even while the mother was in a hospital. Feroze
Khan,
the grocer's son was then in England and he was quite sympathetic to Indira
and soon enough she changed her religion, became a Moslem woman and married
Feroze Khan in a London mosque. Nehru was not happy; about this time Kamala
was dying or already dead. The news of this marriage eventually reached
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi. Gandhi urgently called Nehru an practicall
ordered him to ask the young man to change his name from Khan to Gandhi. It
had nothing to do with change of religion, from Islam to Hinduism. When
they
returned to India, a mock 'Vedic marriage' was instituted for public
consumption. On this subject, writes M.O. Mathai (a longtime Privat
Secretary of Nehru) in his renowned (but now suppressed by the GOI)
Reminiscences of the Nehru Age' on page 94, second paragraph: "For some
inexplicable reason, Nehru allowed the marriage to be performed according
to
Vedic rites in 1942. An inter-religious and inter-caste marriag under Vedic
rites at that time was not valid in law. To be legal, it had to be a civil
marriage.


It's a known fact that after Rajiv's birth Indira and Feroze lived
separately, but they were not divorced. Feroze used to harass Nehru
frequently for money and also interfere in Nehru's political activities.
Nehru got fed up and left instructions not to allow him into the Prime
Minister's residence Trimurthi Bhavan.Mathai writes that the death of
Feroze came as a relief to Nehru and Indira. The death of Feroze in 1960
before he could consolidate his own political forces, is itself a mystery.
Feroze had even planned to remarry.

Those who try to keep tabs on our leaders in spite of all the
suppressions
and deliberate misinformation, are aware of the fact that the second son of
Indira (or Mrs. Feroze Khan) known as Sanjay Gandhi was not the son of
Feroze. He was the son of another Moslem gentleman, Mohammad Yunus. Here,
in
passing, we might mention that the second son was originally named Sanjiv.
It rhymed with Rajiv, the elder brother's name. It was changed to Sanjay
when he was arrested by the British police in England and his passport
impounded, for having stolen a car. Krishna Menon was then India's High
Commissioner in London. He offered to issue another passport to the felon
who changed his name to Sanjay. Incidentally, Sanjay's marriage with the
Sikh girl Menaka (now they call her Maneka for Indira Gandhi found the name
of Lord Indra's court dancer rather offensive!) took place quite
surprisingly in Mohammad Yunus' house in New Delhi. And the marriage with
Menaka who was a model (she had modeled for Bombay Dyeing wearing just a
towel) was not so ordinary either. Sanjay was notorious in getting unwed
young women pregnant. Menaka too was rendered pregnant by Sanjay. It was
then that her father, Colonel Anand, threatened Sanjay with dire
consequences if he did not marry her daughter. And that did the trick.
Sanjay married Menaka. It was widely reported in Delhi at the time that
Mohammad Yunus was unhappy at the marriage of Sanjay with Menaka;
apparently
he had wanted to get him married with a Muslim girl of his choice. It was
Mohammad Yunus who cried the most when Sanjay died in the plane
accident.
In Yunus' book, 'Persons, Passions & Politics' one discovers that baby
Sanjay was circumcised following Islamic custom, although the reason stated
was phimosis. It was always belived that Sanjay used to blackmail Indira
Gandhi and due to this she used to turn a blind eye when Sanjay Gandhi
started to run the country as though it were his personal fiefdom. Was he
black mailing her with the secret of who his real father was? When the news
of Sanjay's death reached Indira Gandhi, the first thing she wanted to know
was about the bunch of keys which Sanjay had with him. Nehru was no less a
player in producing bastards. At least one case is very graphically
described by M.O. Mathai in his "Reminiscences of the Nehru Age" page 206.
Mathai writes: "In
the autumn of 1948 (India became free in 1947 and a great deal of work
needed to be done) a young woman from Benares arrived in New Delhi as a
sanyasini named Shraddha Mata (an assumed and not a real name). She was
a
Sanskrit scholar well versed in the ancient Indian scriptures and
mythology.
People, including MPs, thronged to her to hear her discourses. One day S.D.
Upadhyaya, Nehru's old employee, brought a letter in Hindi from Shraddha
Mata. Nehru gave her an interview in the PM's house. As she departed, I
noticed (this is Mathai speaking) that she was young, shapely and
beautiful.
Meetings with her became rather frequent, mostly after Nehru finished his
work at night. During one of Nehru's visits to Lucknow, Shraddha Mata
turned
up there, and Upadhyaya brought a letter from her as usual. Nehru sent her
the reply; and she visited Nehru at midnight... "Suddenly Shraddha Mata
disappeared. In November 1949 a convent in Bangalore sent a decent looking
person to Delhi with a bundle of letters. He said that a young woman from
northern India arrived at the convent a few months ago and gave birth to
a
baby boy. She refused to divulge her name or give any particulars about
herself. She left the convent as soon as she was well enough to move out
but
left the child behind. She however forgot to take with her a small cloth
bundle in which, among other things, several letters in Hindi were
found.The
Mother Superior, ........Coming back to Rajiv Gandhi, we all know now that
he changed his so called Parsi religion to become a Catholic to marry Sania
Maino of Turin, Italy. Rajiv became Roberto. His daughter's name is Bianca
and son's name is Raul.
Quite cleverly the same names are presented to the people of India as
Priyanka and Rahul. What is amazing is the extent of our people's
ignorance in such matters.

The press conference that Rajiv Gandhi gave in London after taking over
as
prime minister of India was very informative. In this press conference,
Rajiv boasted that he was NOT a Hindu but a Parsi. Mind you, speaking of
the
parsi religion, with no Parsi ancestry. His grandmother (father's mother)
had turned Muslim after abandoning the Parsi religion to marry Nawab
Khan.It
is the western press that waged a blitz of misinformation on behalf of
Rajiv. From the New York Times to the Los Angeles Times and the Washington
Post, the big guns raised Rajiv to heaven. The children's encyclopedias
recorded that Rajiv was a qualified Mechanical Engineer from the revered
University of Cambridge. No doubt US kids are among the most misinformed in
the world today! The reality is that in all three years of his tenure at
that University, Rajiv had not passed a single examination. He had
therefore
to leave Cambridge without a certificate. Sonia too had the same benevolent
treatment. She was stated to be a student in Cambridge. Such a
description
is calculated to mislead Indians. She was a student in Cambridge all right
but not of the University of Cambridge but of one of those fly by night
language schools where foreign students come to learn English. Sonia was
working as an 'au pair' girl in Cambridge and trying to learn English at
the
same time. And surprise of surprises, Rajiv was even cremated as per vedic
rites in full view of the India's public. This is the Nehru dynasty that
India worships and a prestgious national party, which is led by an Italian
because of just one qualification - being married into the Nerhu family.
Maneka Gandhi is accepted by the non-Congress parties not because she was a
former model or an animal lover, but for her links to the Nehru family.

Saying that an Italian should not lead India amounts to narrow
mindedness,
but if Sania Maino (Sonia) had served India like say Mother Teresa or Annie
Besant, then all Indians could be proud of her
just like Mother Teresa.
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jaggu
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Whoever comes I dont think so it will make a difference, be it Mathan or Prabhu...we need to educate our people, drive literacy and encourage people to take up jobs.....this will only improve the economy of our community.....

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sivakumar_jm
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:29 am Reply with quoteBack to top

MPs does matter, thats why people vote.

The following are just facts about Mr.Prabhu. I couldn't get the data for Mr.Mathan and whoever gets these please post them.

Sl.No.
18

M.P Name
R. Prabhu, NILGIRIS

District Cumulative Expenditure (Since 1993)
Entitlement
of Constituency
(Rs.Crore)
18.05

Released
by G.O.I.
(Rs.Crore)
17.05

Amount
available with
Nodal District
with interest etc.
(Rs.Crore)
17.34

Amount
Sanctioned
(Rs.Crore)
17.12

Expenditure
Incurred
(Rs.Crore)
16.22

% Utilisation
Over
Released
95.11

Unspent
Balance
(Rs.Crore)
1.13
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rajunandha
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:15 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Good data sivakumar, people should know about these things. Hope to get more from you...keep going... icon_biggrin.gif

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rajooty
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

hi all,

Mr. Mathan is the one & only MP who has spent all the money alloted to his consituency.Infact it was more than 100%...

Allotted Amt : Rs. 18.00 Cr
Amt Spent : Rs. 18.15 Cr

This data was published in a tamil daily and Mr.Mathan was ranked No.1 in the utilisation of allotted fund.
The number of community halls built in almost all hatties will speak about his acheivements forever.
A bridge which was proposed 20 yrs ago & sleeping all along in the papers was materilised only during Mr.Mathan's tenure ie.. yet another feathure in the crown..

WHAT MORE DO WE NEED......TO CALL HIM MR.CLEAN
(* But still we made him the looser)

THE FACT IS HE NEVER LOST, AS A COMMUNITY WE LOST IT.

JAI HIND
Rajkumar Raman
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sivakumar_jm
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Not to be mean.

But does anyone know how and where were these funds used ?
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